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Posted on 8/15/2015 0:28:00
Hey everyone, I alluded to this in another thread, but due to prior committments, today's update was likely the last one we'll have for 3-4 weeks. Given that, I figured now was a good time to step back and come up with somewhat of a roadmap for the site. As many of you have probably seen, priorites can shift around here pretty quickly as new ideas pop up or feedback is received. So the roadmap below is very tentative and subject to change (which is why I have not included any sort of dates). I wanted to get this in front of you guys since there'll be a few weeks for me to collect any feedback that might be out there so I can adjust my focus accordingly. So here we go... High Priority
Medium Priority
Low Priority
Now, in addition to all of the above development, there's a couple of other tasks that are very important to the site at this point and are arguably the highest priority of all:
So that's it. If you read this whole post, I salute you! Keep in mind that this is only about half of what I have rattling around in my head and on my "official" task list! Feel free to comment, "upvote" certain things, throw out new ideas, etc!
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Posted on 8/15/2015 3:24:04
I was wondering how long it would be before you brought up getting the community here more involved with doing some of the updating and whatnot, seems like way too big a load to be doing solo! (Though we're all really appreciative that you do it) Not sure how keen you are to moving towards a moderator/curator approach, but it might be one way to open submissions/edits to the site's public. User submits new content/changes, change gets put in a holding pattern until you or a curator approves it, maybe have the system check how many submissions a user has had approved and once they pass a threshold, they can make them without need for curator/your approval from that point onward? I'm mostly thinking of how Comic Vine handles content updates from the general userbase. Opening things up sounds like a potential huge can of worms, but it'll be a pretty big time saver. Especially once you implement DLC which will be insanely tedious. Hopefully I remember and I'll come back when I have more time to re-read this list and give more feedback. |
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Posted on 8/15/2015 4:32:30
What I would still love to see added:
And I will also add my thanks for all the work you do on this site. It took me a while to find a site as good as this one for game cataloging.
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Posted on 8/18/2015 4:43:40
Great list with lots of great things! You are really committed to this 'project' and I love the way it develops like it is. Really great job. Don't have much to say about the roadmap; I think some tweaking can be done when it comes to navigation (return to the right pages. You now often go to the collection page after editing game details. What I really would like to see is an option to get rid of my multiple game entry's in the collection page. I have quite some games on both Steam and GOG and they are now both listed. If they could somehow be combined in the list, that would be great. I think this is also mentioned by boffo97. Make it a toggle so people can switch to whatever they like. And the collection page is your 'next big thing' so perhaps you could squeeze this one into your schedule and planning ;-) Also letting your community participate in certain area's would be great; I definitely would devote some of my time to help. |
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Posted on 8/18/2015 7:28:24
I especially like the idea of being able to add what you paid for games! That would be pretty neat!
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Posted on 8/19/2015 19:51:41
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Posted on 8/20/2015 19:33:11
Thanks for all of the feedback so far everyone! There should be plenty for me to work on when I'm able to get back to it :) I'm definitely looking at a moderator approach for enlisting help within the community to manage game data. Addressing the changes on the Collection page is my top priority, but I think this will be second. When I get a little closer to building this out, I'd like to share my thoughts with all of the moderators and make sure everything makes sense and will work. I'm not envisioning anything complex. It's basically going to be a form with all of the metadata for a game that can be edited. Right now, that includes the name, alias names, description, original release date, platforms released on (including region and release date), publisher, and developer. Aside from the names, everything is pulled from Giant Bomb. In addition to the actual data, I'd like to let mods manage the mappings to Giant Bomb and VGPC, since those are the two areas where I tend to fall down. Giant Bomb requires an API call, so there will be a button to refresh the data or something. For VGPC, the data has all been loaded into the database, so it's a matter of relating the appropriate records, which can be tricky since they name things differently and break them out by platform and editions. While VGPC is required since the pricing data has to be loaded in periodically, we don't HAVE to use Giant Bomb. If there was enough activity from moderators, the data could just be curated manually, but I don't think we'll be there just yet :) I'd also like to provide tools that can make things easier for us all to manage the data. I'm thinking there'll be a separate "admin" game search page that let's you see things that aren't mapped to GB / VGPC, that don't have a publisher, etc. Likewise, some games are digital only and will never have a VGPC mapping, so I'd like to add a flag in the database to track this so that stuff doesn't flood the list. Again, this is why I'm hoping to share all of my thoughts once I have them fully formulated to make sure this all works well :D Okay, enough about that. Next up is an option to display multiple format games as a single entry on the Collection page. Unfortunately, this is a much larger task than you might think, so I'd like to make sure I understand what you guys are looking for. The main issue is that each entry on the Collection page is an instance of a game, which has properties like now playing, backlogged, etc. If we display a single entry for the games you have multiple copies of, some of the data / buttons would not be available, which could impact the way the screen looks a bit. This gets especially tricky with the shelf view, since there's not a natural way to "drill-down" to the individual formats (at least, not that I've thought of so far, so I'm certainly open to suggestions!) @boff97 - Regarding the "DLC" items, are you looking to add "Shining Force" to your collection or an actual "SEGA Genesis & Mega Drive Classics" entry? I'll have to do some research on how this comes across on the Steam import as well. Having a daily Steam import is something I've considered in the past and was actually going to work on a few months ago. The main reason I held off was because user retention / repeat site visits has been the main problem the site has faced and having an automated import means users don't have to log in anymore, which potentially discourages them from entering completions, posting on the forums, etc. On the flip-side, I would definitely like an automated import :P Perhaps it only runs if you've logged in recently or something. And it can be turned off by default. I'm thinking it could email you whenever it found something to import as well. I also like this because it gives me a head-start on adding missing games. And finally, the "amount paid" field has been added and will be included with the next release...whenever that is!
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Posted on 8/21/2015 5:42:46
I was thinking about how the multiple platforms for the same game thing might be handled. How about when you add a game to your database you select a platform to act as the "primary" entry for a game, and you have the option to check off some "alternate" platforms. The alternates would be effectively blank entries with just the game name and platform by default in the database. Editing the details for the additional platforms would be accessible through something akin to tabs when you click edit on the primary entry? Not sure if possible, but the setup could be similar to how you've implemented game compilations, including the option to explode extra copies from alternate platforms to be displayed when looking at My Collection. |
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Posted on 8/21/2015 17:02:33
I'll go back to the beginning and try to explain more clearly. :) I have two "games" on my Steam list that actually aren't games at all, but engines for games, with the actual games acting as DLC. For example, in Pinball FX2, I have "DLC" like "Captain America table", "Civil War table" etc. Each table I have is DLC, but it's actually its own game. Just not as far as Steam is concerned. (Note: For whatever reason, Pinball FX2 is known as Zen Pinball 2 on PS3.) Similarly, I have the "game" Sega Genesis & Mega Drive Classics, with DLC like "Sonic the Hedgehog", "Sonic the Hedgehog 2", "Sonic Spinball" etc. Since, in this case, what's technically DLC is actually games, it'd be nice to track that. Maybe a "sub platform" category added? Such a category could also track games from bundles or programs like PS Plus or Games with Gold. "Pinball Arcade" also does the same thing for Steam and consoles. The main difference between the two is Pinball Arcade has recreations of real pinball tables, and Pinball FX2/Zen Pinball 2 has tables specifically designed for it. |
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Posted on 8/21/2015 18:08:44
Zen Pinball 2 has some of it's DLC tables listed as standalone on the ps3, which I suspect is because they were given out as ps+ offerings, but the lack of consistency makes this title a bit of a nightmare to organize it seems, haha. "Such a category could also track games from bundles or programs like PS Plus or Games with Gold." I do like the idea of having a sub-platform field option though, as I have a ton of psn/steam "classics" that would be nice to have show up if I were to filter on a different platform like sega genesis. Maybe in addition to "platform" you could have an "original platform" field that would be purely optional for people who want that extra level of filtering capability? Regarding DLC (in general): When DLC tracking is implemented, if it could be added in a similar way to how games are tracked as part of compilations, where each DLC would have it's own editable entry for completion status/achievements/rating, then would that not work towards solving boffo97's issue above? Only thing I can think of that it wouldn't accomplish would be if say, you wanted to filter your collection by sega genesis games, you wouldn't see these DLC entries pop up since they'd still be listed as a pc (steam) game, but this in addition to the "original platform" field being added would solve that I think.
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Posted on 8/21/2015 18:55:28
I'll make a separate post since it's a different subject (and to ramp up dat post count, yo! :P) Since I have a bit of time right now, I can finally comment on some of these. New fields on collection: Game difficulty: Genres: DLC / Amiibo / Skylanders: Motivation emails: Site help:
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Posted on 9/11/2015 20:15:35
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NovaNapoleon
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Posted on 9/12/2015 1:53:34
Sorry to hear that! Get well soon! :)
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Posted on 9/12/2015 2:04:13
That is very sad to hear, I hope whatever it is that plagues you can be cured/fixed in good time. As for volunteering, count me in. I'd be more than happy to take on some of the load around here and help you out. |
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Posted on 9/12/2015 3:05:26
Get well soon! And let us know if there's anything we can do! |
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Posted on 9/12/2015 13:33:44
Thanks everyone! I'm determined to get through this and get back to making this site even better. Speaking of which, I just pushed out those shelf view changes. I fully expect some feedback, so don't hold back! I also added the field for tracking how much you paid for a game. |
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Posted on 9/12/2015 14:56:04
That looks really great! I like the placement of the buttons in a row below the image, it's a great compromise over the super minimalist mockup I sent you. At this point, I would consider removing the grey background from the game images as it's not really needed any longer to "anchor" side buttons. If it's possible to vertically align the game images so they are at the bottom instead of top, this would be pretty much perfect. Onto the bugs and whatnot:
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Posted on 9/12/2015 17:33:22
@dhobo - Thanks for the feedback! I just pushed out a hotfix that should address most of that stuff. I removed the grey background, fixed the notes / strategy guide bug (copy pasta error, oops!), limited tags to 5 (display only, of course), modified the images so they're bottom and center aligned, and hopefully wrangled those edges to be lined up. Let me know if you see anything else! You may need to do a hard refresh (CTRL+F5) to see some of the changes.
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Posted on 9/12/2015 17:35:25
As for the long names, that's something I haven't quite figured out. I'm using a "button group" thing from the template I'm using and it was giving me fits yesterday when I was trying to get it to look better. For now, I'm just cutting it off intentionally and have a tooltip showing up. I may have to convert it from a button group to a Bootstrap dropdown, but not sure that will solve the issue, so I'll have to do some testing first. For now, hopefully you don't have very many long names :P |
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Posted on 9/12/2015 17:40:09
So apparently the grey backgrounds were hiding the reverse side information... because now I'm getting this hilarious view where I see everything not covered by the game image written backwards |
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Posted on 9/12/2015 17:42:34
Also, the rest of the fixes look great, it's super clean now. That grey stuff was really bugging me from an aesthetics point of view before.
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Posted on 9/12/2015 18:09:11
Ah! I see what you mean now. I'm using Firefox and it seems to work fine, but Chrome shows the reversed text. And amazingly, IE appears to work fine too.
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Posted on 9/12/2015 18:25:29
Was about to comment that the same problem doesn't happen on Chrome for mobile, but then I checked here on my pc again and it seems you pushed a fix already, haha. |
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Posted on 9/12/2015 18:30:33
Haha I was about to post that I had deployed a new hotfix, but got sidetracked :P So yeah, that weird backwards issue should be fixed. It was more of a hack than a fix, but that's okay :D |
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Posted on 9/12/2015 18:36:32
hack = put the grey box back, but make it white? ;) |