moho_00 Curator Backer Posts: 6846 Registered: 6/10/2011
moho_00
# 1 - Posted on 10/23/2016 19:50:28

Based on the feedback I received in another thread, it sounds like revamping the Collection page is going to be a top priority after the upcoming holidays. That should give me plenty of time to collect additional feedback and put together a plan for implementation.

So....if there's anything you'd like to see on the new Collection page, now is the time to post! I can't guarantee everything will make it in, but I will take everything into consideration and work to building the best page possible

Zukureneno Posts: 1 Registered: 10/23/2016
Zukureneno
# 2 - Posted on 10/24/2016 1:11:41

Amazing website just found it today, was looking for a website since I'm moving out and needed a list of games i own.

A idea i though would look nice is having some kind of view with shelves with all the box art that you have in your list and on top of the shelve with a image of the Console that is added at so it would look like a virtual library you could have in real life.

anyways props on the nice website

Marcelloz Curator Backer Posts: 277 Registered: 9/14/2014
Marcelloz071
# 3 - Posted on 10/24/2016 20:32:37

Great you get going on the collection page. Got some stuff to suggest and like to see realised if possible.

First of all, the way it works and looks is already great. Below are just things that enhance the already excellent page.
- Custom views with custom columns\sorting: This is the meat of the bone oc. Just be able to switch between a simple view that returns a list quickly, and switch to a detailled view with boxart etc would be awesome. I think I mentioned earlier, but librarything.com does something similar (http://www.librarything.com/catalog/mdekleine)
- Be able to store a combination of a custom view + filters in a Quick view drop down list. I already use the Quick Filter option a lot, and love to see that I can add my own filters to this.
- I really to be able to see in the view which lists a game belongs to. Can be part of the custom view as mentioned above, but wanted to mentioned anyway :)
- Move the filters to a sidebar instead of the top. If you scroll down they disappear and you have to scroll to the top to get them again. Little bit annoying.
- I think this one is a bit difficult to implement in SQLServer (I guess you use that as the database) but perhaps newer versions have such a feature: facets. Be able to quickly drill down your collection by selecting specific values. It's like the amazon (or any shop) filter you get on the side. Just click on a value and it will apply that filter.
- Choose a default starting view. Now you always get the view sorted by name, and I always change that. Would be nice if I could set that in preferences or something.
- Be able to view games with active playthroughs, and view the % of completion within my collection

Perhaps I come up with more idea's, this is it for now. Good luck!

DOBERMAN_AX Posts: 245 Registered: 6/28/2016
# 4 - Posted on 10/28/2016 14:25:55

For the Box Art view, I was always a fan of the "flip" transition, but I don't really like how the only information displayed is the game's rating and if it was finished or not. I think it would be nice to see the same overall completion bars present in Now Playing also in the hover view as I feel like this will provide more motivating information. If I was able to see more of my completions from this viewpoint, I would without a doubt use it more often. So another thing to consider, moho!

Post Edited on 10/28/2016 14:26:24
yakke141 Posts: 7 Registered: 10/2/2016
yakke141
# 5 - Posted on 11/5/2016 15:44:10

Just started using this website, great job so far! There are still a few enhancements missing that would make it really great. Here are a few suggestions:

I agree with Marcelloz on the following points:
- custom views with custom columns/sorting
- being able to make custom quick filters

for the flip view: also show the digital platform

Additional filtering options

  • Format:
    - A Physical options which encompasses all 3 current options (Physical(new), Physical (unassigned), Physical(used)). Maybe you could call it: "Physical (all)"
    - Also do this for Digital : Digital (all)

  • Progress:
    - Another Progress option : "On hold". It would be used to indicate games you already started playing but never finished and still want to finish. This would also be under the incomplete category of course.
    - I also think "now playing" should be a filtering option in the progress options

  • Misc:
    - The possibility to make "not" filters, so you can show everything except a certain filter in a quick and easy way
    - Make it possible to filter out duplicate games (on the same or different platforms). Right now I had to find all my duplicate games and put them all in a Duplicate list, so I could add the game on the preferred platform to my priority lists.

Sorting on rank

The biggest improvement for me would be a way to do a custom sort on "rank" by dragging and dropping the list elements. This would be similar to how the steam wishlist works. Rank would then also be one of the sorting options
It would be nice if this could be different for each list, but a general rank for the entire collection would work too. In my case I want to use it to indicate in which order I want to play my games (sort of like a priority list).
Currently I just created additional lists for each priority:

  • Play next
  • High priority
  • Mid priority
  • Low priority
  • Probably never

This is already very helpful for me to determine which games to play next in broad terms, but when you have a lot of games each category tends to still have a lot of games. Some more fine-grained control would be nice.

It would be nice to be able to set the list from within the add game window. As rank you can just put it as last of the list by default.

Mobile
- For the mobile version it would be nice to also be able to see how many items there are in the current selection, like on the desktop version.
- It would also be nice to see the name of the game instead of only the image on mobile. Sometimes the game image doesn't show the name very clearly and you have to zoom in to properly know which game it is
- Some filters appear to be missing in the mobile version, which is kind of annoying sometimes. Maybe you can add filter categories which you can open up and close or something? This would solve the need to use a lot of space for filters.

If some of these things are already possible in some other ways and I have overlooked it, please let me know :)!

Keep up the good work!

Post Edited on 11/5/2016 15:50:20
Nocmin Curator Posts: 163 Registered: 11/6/2016
# 6 - Posted on 11/6/2016 10:14:41

Not sure if this is possible, but have a game that is owned on multiple platforms grouped together.

This way if I own, say, Rebel Galaxy on PS4, Steam and GOG, they would be on one line of my collection, but have multiple sub-entries.

Possibly nested in the Collections page, or on Tabs in the game's page (ie, user can + a tab for another platform entry).

I know that this is a complicated suggestion, but I think it would get the best of both worlds, allowing people to keep all entries for the same game together, yet being able to distinguish specifically on which platform they have, for example, performed completions or have made an amount of progress. So I know I've beaten Rebel Galaxy twice, once on Steam, once on PS4; on Steam I only got 50% of achievements, but on PS4 I got 98% of achievements.

I suppose the progress bar on the Collections page would take the highest of the progress values for the different sources of the same game.

EDIT (11/06/16 5!22!47AM): Forgot to say another benefit.

Say I only own Rebel Galaxy, on those three platforms, and that is my entire collection. If I beat it on PS4 and Steam, the current set up will say I've beaten 2/3 of my games. I think it would be better if the completion is grouped per game, because after all, I've beaten 100% of my collection, a single game, twice.

EDIT 2: If that proves to be a ridiculous amount of work, a simpler option for grouping games would be to merely have it possible to add multiple platform/digital formats added to a game, all with one info page. Database-wise, I supposed that could be done with one table with the collection entry ID and the platform as a key pair. At the very least, this would still group completions for a single game over multiple platforms.

Post Edited on 11/6/2016 22:46:38
DOBERMAN_AX Posts: 245 Registered: 6/28/2016
# 7 - Posted on 11/9/2016 4:12:11

Nocmin:

I know that this is a complicated suggestion, but I think it would get the best of both worlds, allowing people to keep all entries for the same game together, yet being able to distinguish specifically on which platform they have, for example, performed completions or have made an amount of progress. So I know I've beaten Rebel Galaxy twice, once on Steam, once on PS4; on Steam I only got 50% of achievements, but on PS4 I got 98% of achievements.

What you are describing seems to be in line with the sorting feature already available on the My Collection page. As it sounds, you desire to look at your completion ratio for the same game on different platforms. This can be achieved by using filtering options already implemented.

As an example, I have used Metal Gear games under the same filter as you seem to have requested.


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As you see with the multiple entries of Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, I have the options to sort through different levels of completion as well as platform, genre, region, and format.

I hope this has been helpful to you. However, if your request was different than what I have described, please feel free to elaborate more.

Post Edited on 11/9/2016 4:21:10
Nocmin Curator Posts: 163 Registered: 11/6/2016
# 8 - Posted on 11/9/2016 4:40:28

I was thinking that all the Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake games could be nested, especially if I own it on Ps2, Ps3, Xbox 360, and PC. This way, if I complete it once on PS2, I have completed 1/1 games in my list, rather than 1/4.

But then, as I start to think of it more, where do you draw the line of "Same Game"? Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake vs Metal Gear 2: Sons of Liberty vs Metal Gear 2: Substance, etc. Guacamelee vs Guacamelee Gold vs Guacamelee Super Turbo Championship Edition. Doom 2, Doom 2 Xbox, Doom 2 BFG Edition, etc.

I suppose grouping could be done on the base game: Metal Gear 2, Guacamelee, Doom 2. But I suppose it complicates things further.

I just like the idea of being able to say: "I beat Doom 2. I own 4 versions of it, but I beat one version and have therefore accomplished the game. I may go back and play other versions, but I don't need to." and have that reflect in the collection/backlog, without it saying I have 3 more versions to beat.

I'm not sure if my ramblings have clarified anything. >_<

If I have time in the coming days, I'll try to shoop an image of what I mean.

Nocmin Curator Posts: 163 Registered: 11/6/2016
# 9 - Posted on 11/9/2016 6:25:50

Aw geeze...

Okay, having now added a completion of a game, I see that it does track across platforms, or at least digital sources. I completed a playthrough on Steam, and the GOG copy of the game also lists the stats of the completion.

Sorry, I didn't realize it was already doing this; shoulda played with it more beforehand. >_<

Okay, well, as nifty as nesting the game's consoles would still be, I understand your confusion at everything else I was saying, since it is already doing that! ^_^'

Would it propagate to a non-PC copy of the game as well, or just to all PC versions?

Post Edited on 11/9/2016 6:28:40
dhobo Curator Backer Posts: 1965 Registered: 1/5/2015
darwinsocialism
# 10 - Posted on 11/9/2016 18:33:32

When you update your progress status via Add Completion, it should apply that status to all copies of the game in your collection that share a database entry regardless of platform.

jwcooley Curator Posts: 983 Registered: 2/28/2014
jwcooley
# 11 - Posted on 11/9/2016 21:27:48

I will also add that the completion detail will allow you to specify what platform. So you can see that detail if necessary.

For example, I have Back to the Future (the TellTale game) on both PC and PS3. For both iterations, it appears I have a completion. However, if you look at the specific completion, it says I completed the game for PS3.

If I went in and added the same Back to the Future to my collection 14 more ways (put it under 14 other systems (physical or not)), the completion count would show 1 for all those. However, let's say a different version of the game out (anniversary edition, as an example), since it's a different entry in the database and is treated as a separate game, it wouldn't show the completion count as 1.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Nocmin Curator Posts: 163 Registered: 11/6/2016
# 12 - Posted on 11/10/2016 1:30:05

I like the sound of it! Look forward to making increasing use of this feature.

moho_00 Curator Backer Posts: 6846 Registered: 6/10/2011
moho_00
# 13 - Posted on 2/17/2017 14:35:36

Any interest in having a group chat next Saturday (2/25) to discuss this stuff? We could follow it up with some gaming

dhobo Curator Backer Posts: 1965 Registered: 1/5/2015
darwinsocialism
# 14 - Posted on 2/17/2017 16:21:13

Sure, I don't have any plans for next weekend, sounds good to me.

Nocmin Curator Posts: 163 Registered: 11/6/2016
# 15 - Posted on 2/20/2017 10:28:13

If I can make my brain remember, I think I'd be able to. :)

moho_00 Curator Backer Posts: 6846 Registered: 6/10/2011
moho_00
# 16 - Posted on 2/20/2017 20:08:49

How does 7:00pm EST on 2/25 sound? We can talk about the revamp for a bit and then do some gaming! Possible gaming options include:

  • Team Fortress 2
  • Robot Roller-Derby Disco Dodgeball
  • Dirt Showdown
  • Unreal Tournament 3
  • Minecraft
  • ????
dhobo Curator Backer Posts: 1965 Registered: 1/5/2015
darwinsocialism
# 17 - Posted on 2/21/2017 16:16:59

I should be good for that time. Don't really care what game, I'll just roll with whatever people want to play.

moho_00 Curator Backer Posts: 6846 Registered: 6/10/2011
moho_00
# 18 - Posted on 2/23/2017 19:10:41

I've never played it, but Brawlhalla looks like it could be fun and it's free! http://store.steampowered.com/app/291550/

Marcus Curator Backer Posts: 311 Registered: 10/16/2014
# 19 - Posted on 2/24/2017 15:12:44

I'm up for it if you guys are. :)

Drymonema Curator Backer Posts: 395 Registered: 5/31/2016
drymonema
# 20 - Posted on 2/24/2017 15:18:38

I might be out tomorrow night, but if I'm around I'll definitely join in for talk and games :)

Nocmin Curator Posts: 163 Registered: 11/6/2016
# 21 - Posted on 2/25/2017 20:08:25

Won't be able to make it after all. Dinner plans. >_<

moho_00 Curator Backer Posts: 6846 Registered: 6/10/2011
moho_00
# 22 - Posted on 2/25/2017 21:27:20

Maybe we should postpone to give others a chance to join? I'm in the middle of painting my basement ceiling right now and I got started a bit later than I had anticipated, so perhaps that works out better for me too. I'm still several weeks out from being able to work on this feature, so there's no rush for the discussion

If we postpone, I suggest 3/11 since it will be after the Switch launch and before the NCAA basketball tournament :P

dhobo Curator Backer Posts: 1965 Registered: 1/5/2015
darwinsocialism
# 23 - Posted on 2/25/2017 23:00:06

No worries. I'll find some other mischief to keep me occupied tonight then :P

jwcooley Curator Posts: 983 Registered: 2/28/2014
jwcooley
# 24 - Posted on 3/2/2017 16:12:45

Sounds kind of crazy, but what if @Dhobo did another mock-up of something that he's probably got rolling around in his head? I feel like his mockups in the past have been really good and could be what we need as far as visualization to get ideas.

dhobo Curator Backer Posts: 1965 Registered: 1/5/2015
darwinsocialism
# 25 - Posted on 3/2/2017 23:49:01

Thanks!

That was basically the plan from my end of things. Figured after we had our meeting and talked about things, I'd have a checklist of the various requirements and goals we're all looking to get out of the end product that I could incorporate into my mockup. From there, get some feedback from the first mockup, do some tweaks (or generate a new concept if first concept is bad/wrong) do a bit of back and forth until we get something that works and moho_00 can start working his wizardry on to make it a reality.

I'm not entirely sure as to the actual scope of the revamp to be honest as things stand right now, so the initial discussion will help cement that in place at least.